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- An ex-OpenAI board member revealed new details about Sam Altman's brief ousting as CEO.
- Helen Toner said Altman lied to the board "multiple" times and was "withholding information."
- Toner claimed he didn't tell the board about ChatGPT's release; they found out on Twitter, she said.
Former OpenAI board member Helen Toner revealed explosive new details about what led to CEO Sam Altman's brief ousting in November.
In an interview with Bilawal Sidhu on "The Ted AI Show," which aired Tuesday, Toner said Altman had lied to the board multiple times.
As one example, Toner said OpenAI's board learned about the release of ChatGPT on Twitter.
She said that Altman was "withholding information" and "misrepresenting things that were happening in the company" for years.
Toner — one of the board members who voted to kick Altman out — alleged Altman also lied to the board by keeping them in the dark about the company's ownership structure.
"Sam didn't inform the board that he owned the OpenAI startup fund, even though he constantly was claiming to be an independent board member with no financial interest in the company," she said.
Altman keeping that from the board "really damaged our ability to trust him" and that the board was "already talking pretty seriously about whether we needed to fire him" in October, she said.
OpenAI didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.
Toner — currently a director of strategy at the Centre for Security and Emerging Technology at Georgetown — alleges the OpenAI chief also gave board members "inaccurate information about the small number of formal safety processes" OpenAI had in place.
She said that made it "basically impossible" for the board to understand if the safety measures were sufficient or if any changes were needed.
She said there were other individual examples, but ultimately, the board concluded that "we just couldn't believe things that Sam was telling us, and that's a completely unworkable place to be in as a board."
Toner added that it was "totally impossible" for the board to trust Altman's word. The board, she said, had a role to have independent oversight of OpenAI and "not just helping the CEO to raise more money."
But then, last October, the board had a number of conversations where two executives detailed their own experiences with Altman in which they used the phrase "psychological abuse," according to Toner.
She said the executives told the board they "didn't think he was the right person to lead the company to AGI, telling us they had no belief that he could or would change, no point in giving him feedback, no point in trying to work through these issues."
By the time the board realized Altman needed replacing, Toner says it was clear that Altman would "pull out all the stops" to block the board from going against him if he found out. She claims he "started lying to other board members in order to try and push me off the board."
She said, "We were very careful, very deliberate about who we told, which was essentially almost no one in advance, other than obviously our legal team and so that's kind of what took us to to November 17."
But Altman's ouster didn't last long.
As staff threatened to quit and speculation swirled that Microsoft may poach Altman's team from OpenAI and hire him directly, the company's board brought back Altman as CEO less than a week later.
Toner resigned from her role as an OpenAI board member less than two weeks after Altman returned as CEO.
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